Pokémon Phantom Forces vs Furious Fists Elite Trainer Box: which is worth opening?

Neither is worth opening at today's prices, but Furious Fists comes closer: its cards are worth 1.5% of its price after selling costs, against 0.5% for Phantom Forces.

Prices from October 15, 2026, updated daily.

Side by side

Phantom Forces Elite Trainer BoxFurious Fists Elite Trainer Box
VerdictKeep it sealedKeep it sealed
Box price today$16,812€15,000$4,086€3,645
Cards inside, after selling costs$79€70$60€53
Cards ÷ price0.5%1.5%
Boxes that lose money100 of 100 boxes100 of 100 boxes
A typical box (median)$57€51$59€52
Rarest pullSecret Rare: 40 of 100 boxesSecret Rare: 40 of 100 boxes
Packs8 packs of 10 cards8 packs of 10 cards
ReleasedNovember 5, 2014August 13, 2014

The two boxes

How we work this out

Both boxes are worked out the same way: today's card prices, selling costs taken off, and simulated boxes to see how often one loses money. Read the full method

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