Pokémon Phantom Forces vs Furious Fists Elite Trainer Box: which is worth opening?
Neither is worth opening at today's prices, but Furious Fists comes closer: its cards are worth 1.5% of its price after selling costs, against 0.5% for Phantom Forces.
Side by side
| Phantom Forces Elite Trainer Box | Furious Fists Elite Trainer Box | |
|---|---|---|
| Verdict | Keep it sealed | Keep it sealed |
| Box price today | $16,812€15,000 | $4,086€3,645 |
| Cards inside, after selling costs | $79€70 | $60€53 |
| Cards ÷ price | 0.5% | 1.5% |
| Boxes that lose money | 100 of 100 boxes | 100 of 100 boxes |
| A typical box (median) | $57€51 | $59€52 |
| Rarest pull | Secret Rare: 40 of 100 boxes | Secret Rare: 40 of 100 boxes |
| Packs | 8 packs of 10 cards | 8 packs of 10 cards |
| Released | November 5, 2014 | August 13, 2014 |
The two boxes
How we work this out
Both boxes are worked out the same way: today's card prices, selling costs taken off, and simulated boxes to see how often one loses money. Read the full method


