$670€598todayIs a Lost Thunder Elite Trainer Box worth opening?
Cardmarket today
$670.25€598.01
- Lowest listing
- $896.53€799.90
- Per pack
- $83.78€74.75
Keep it sealed$238€212 of cards inside, after selling costs
Estimated contents: nobody has published measured pull rates for this box yet, so we use those of boxes with the same pack layout. Treat the numbers as a rough guide.
Why we'd keep it sealed
The cards inside are worth $238€212 after selling costs. The box costs $670€598.
On average you lose $432€386 per box. Buying the singles you want is cheaper.
Pull rates are still uncertain. The real value could be anywhere from $178€159 to $316€282.
No prices yet for: Basic Energy. We count them as worth nothing.
If you opened 100 boxes
- 3 make money
- 97 lose money
A typical box is worth $182€162. 1 in 10 boxes is worth $549€490 or more, and 1 in 10 is worth $105€94 or less.
The math, per box
From the price of every card to what you'd actually keep.
Per box of 8 packs
- Box price on Cardmarket
- $670€598
- Cards inside, at market prices
- $273€244
- Selling costs and bulk
- −$35−€31
- Cards inside, after selling costs
- $238€212
- Compared with the box price
- −$432−€386
From 100,000 simulated boxes. Selling costs: 5% fee, $0.28€0.25 per card sold, cards under $1.12€1.00 go to bulk at $0.01€0.01.
- Cards inside, at market prices
- The average value of everything in a box, with each card at its price on Cardmarket today.
- Selling costs and bulk
- Cardmarket's fee and postage for every card worth selling. Cheap cards go to bulk for a few cents.
- Cards inside, after selling costs
- What an average box puts in your pocket once everything is sold.
- Compared with the box price
- Plus means the average box is worth more than it costs. Minus means it's worth less.
What the box costs
Today's price on Cardmarket, and how the box price and the cards inside have moved.
- Cardmarket today
- $670.25€598.01$83.78€74.75 per pack
- Lowest listing
- $896.53€799.90
The price history starts on the day live prices switch on, and grows by one point a day.
What 100,000 simulated boxes were worth
Every box is different. This is how the value of each simulated box came out, after selling costs.
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| Box value | Boxes out of 100 | Result |
|---|---|---|
| Under $65€58 | 1 in 179 | Lose money |
| $65€58 to $87€78 | 3 of 100 | Lose money |
| $87€78 to $110€98 | 8 of 100 | Lose money |
| $110€98 to $132€118 | 11 of 100 | Lose money |
| $132€118 to $155€138 | 12 of 100 | Lose money |
| $155€138 to $177€158 | 12 of 100 | Lose money |
| $177€158 to $200€178 | 10 of 100 | Lose money |
| $200€178 to $222€198 | 9 of 100 | Lose money |
| $222€198 to $244€218 | 6 of 100 | Lose money |
| $244€218 to $267€238 | 5 of 100 | Lose money |
| $267€238 to $289€258 | 3 of 100 | Lose money |
| $289€258 to $312€278 | 2 of 100 | Lose money |
| $312€278 to $334€298 | 1 in 84 | Lose money |
| $334€298 to $356€318 | 1 in 146 | Lose money |
| $356€318 to $379€338 | 1 in 246 | Lose money |
| $379€338 to $401€358 | 1 in 321 | Lose money |
| $401€358 to $424€378 | 1 in 190 | Lose money |
| $424€378 to $446€398 | 1 in 140 | Lose money |
| $446€398 to $469€418 | 1 in 129 | Lose money |
| $469€418 to $491€438 | 1 in 137 | Lose money |
| $491€438 to $513€458 | 1 in 161 | Lose money |
| $513€458 to $536€478 | 1 in 146 | Lose money |
| $536€478 to $558€498 | 1 in 85 | Lose money |
| $558€498 to $581€518 | 1 in 68 | Lose money |
| $581€518 to $603€538 | 2 of 100 | Lose money |
| $603€538 to $625€558 | 1 in 71 | Lose money |
| $625€558 to $648€578 | 1 in 79 | Lose money |
| $648€578 to $670€598 | 1 in 107 | Lose money |
| $670€598 to $693€618 | 1 in 146 | Make money |
| $693€618 to $715€638 | 1 in 225 | Make money |
| $715€638 or more | 2 of 100 | Make money |
Where the value comes from
The average box, split by card type. Most of the value often sits in cards you'll rarely see.
| Card type | How many per box | Average card after selling costs | Adds to the box |
|---|---|---|---|
| Full Art2.0 per box | 2.0 per box | $54.28€48.43 | |
| Pokémon-GX4.0 per box | 4.0 per box | $12.37€11.04 | |
| Rainbow Rare1 in 1.4 boxes | 1 in 1.4 boxes | $62.10€55.41 | |
| Reverse Holo8.0 per box | 8.0 per box | $2.50€2.23 | |
| Gold Secret Rare1 in 2.0 boxes | 1 in 2.0 boxes | $13.53€12.07 | |
| Common40 per box | 40 per box | $0.12€0.11 | |
| Uncommon24 per box | 24 per box | $0.10€0.09 | |
| Rare / Holo Rare1 in 1.3 boxes | 1 in 1.3 boxes | $2.80€2.50 | |
| Basic Energy8.0 per box | 8.0 per box | No price yet | |
| Total | $238€212 |
Chance of a big pull
How often a box has at least one of the rarest cards.
- Full Art 90of 100 boxes Full-art Pokémon (EX, GX or V) and full-art Supporter cards. 2.0 per box$54€48 each
- Rainbow Rare 52of 100 boxes Rainbow-foil secret rare versions of GX, V, VMAX and Supporter cards. 1 in 1.4 boxes$62€55 each
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| Card type | Boxes with at least one | On average | Boxes for one specific card |
|---|---|---|---|
| Full ArtFull-art Pokémon (EX, GX or V) and full-art Supporter cards. | 90 of 100 | 2.0 per box | 10 |
| Rainbow RareRainbow-foil secret rare versions of GX, V, VMAX and Supporter cards. | 52 of 100 | 1 in 1.4 boxes | 19 |
If card prices fall
Prices often drop in the weeks after a set comes out. This is the same box with cheaper cards and the same box price.
| Card prices | Cards inside, after costs | Compared with the box | Boxes that lose money | Verdict |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Today's prices | $238€212 | −$432−€386 | 97 of 100 | Keep it sealed |
| 25% lower | $176€157 | −$494−€441 | 99 of 100 | Keep it sealed |
| 50% lower | $115€102 | −$556−€496 | more than 99 of 100 boxes | Keep it sealed |
| 75% lower | $54€48 | −$616−€550 | 100 of 100 | Keep it sealed |
Pull rates we used
Where each number comes from, and how sure we are. Sources checked on 14 October 2026. This box's own pull rates haven't been measured, so these come from boxes with the same pack layout, with extra uncertainty added.
| Card type | How often | Likely range | Based on |
|---|---|---|---|
| Common slots, 5 per pack | |||
| Common | 40 per box | Pack layout | |
| Uncommon slots, 3 per pack | |||
| Uncommon | 24 per box | Pack layout | |
| Reverse holo slots, 1 per pack | |||
| Reverse Holo | 8.0 per box | Pack layout | |
| Rare slot, 1 per pack | |||
| Gold Secret Rare | 1 in 2.0 boxes | 1 in 4.9 boxes to 1.2 per box | Estimate |
| Rainbow Rare | 1 in 1.4 boxes | 1 in 3.5 boxes to 1.7 per box | Estimate |
| Full Art | 2.0 per box | 1 in 1.1 boxes to 4.4 per box | Estimate |
| Pokémon-GX | 4.0 per box | 1.8 to 8.7 per box | Estimate |
| Rare / Holo Rare | 1 in 1.3 boxes | The rest of the slot | |
| Energy slot, 1 per pack | |||
| Basic Energy | 8.0 per box | Pack layout | |
Most valuable cards
The 30 most valuable cards in the set, and what you'd keep after selling one.
| Card | Card type | Cardmarket price | After selling costs |
|---|---|---|---|
| Lugia GX (207) | Full Art | $491.90€438.88 | $467.02€416.69 |
| Lugia GX (227) | Rainbow Rare | $351.76€313.85 | $333.89€297.91 |
| Professor Elm’s Lecture (213) | Full Art | $120.16€107.21 | $113.87€101.60 |
| Mimikyu GX (226) | Rainbow Rare | $106.87€95.35 | $101.24€90.33 |
| Tyranitar GX (203) | Full Art | $82.89€73.96 | $78.47€70.01 |
| Suicune GX (220) | Rainbow Rare | $80.96€72.23 | $76.63€68.37 |
| Whitney (214) | Full Art | $73.06€65.19 | $69.13€61.68 |
| Tyranitar GX (223) | Rainbow Rare | $68.56€61.17 | $64.85€57.86 |
| Mimikyu GX (206) | Full Art | $59.62€53.19 | $56.35€50.28 |
| Lugia GX (159) | Pokémon-GX | $57.30€51.12 | $54.15€48.31 |
| Mina (211) | Full Art | $52.60€46.93 | $49.69€44.33 |
| Zeraora GX (221) | Rainbow Rare | $51.71€46.14 | $48.85€43.58 |
| Sceptile GX (216) | Rainbow Rare | $41.12€36.69 | $38.79€34.61 |
| Alolan Ninetales GX (225) | Rainbow Rare | $40.18€35.85 | $37.89€33.81 |
| Judge (209) | Full Art | $37.08€33.08 | $34.94€31.18 |
| Nihilego (106), reverse holo | Reverse Holo | $30.96€27.62 | $29.13€25.99 |
| Zeraora GX (201) | Full Art | $28.58€25.50 | $26.87€23.98 |
| Kahili (210) | Full Art | $28.40€25.34 | $26.70€23.82 |
| Sceptile GX (196) | Full Art | $27.49€24.53 | $25.84€23.05 |
| Shuckle GX (215) | Rainbow Rare | $27.34€24.39 | $25.69€22.92 |
| Net Ball (234) | Gold Secret Rare | $26.80€23.91 | $25.18€22.46 |
| Suicune GX (200) | Full Art | $25.94€23.14 | $24.36€21.73 |
| Blacephalon GX (199) | Full Art | $24.34€21.72 | $22.85€20.38 |
| Blacephalon GX (219) | Rainbow Rare | $24.34€21.72 | $22.85€20.38 |
| Alolan Ninetales GX (205) | Full Art | $23.99€21.40 | $22.51€20.08 |
| Nihilego (106) | Rare / Holo Rare | $23.46€20.93 | $22.01€19.63 |
| Counter Gain (230) | Gold Secret Rare | $22.55€20.12 | $21.14€18.86 |
| Slowpoke (54), reverse holo | Reverse Holo | $21.92€19.56 | $20.55€18.33 |
| Umbreon (120), reverse holo | Reverse Holo | $20.96€18.70 | $19.63€17.52 |
| Alolan Ninetales GX (132) | Pokémon-GX | $20.72€18.49 | $19.41€17.32 |
How we work this out
We price every card at its Cardmarket market value, take off the selling costs above, and open 100,000 virtual boxes slot by slot using the pull rates in the table. The verdict compares the cards with the box price and checks how often a box loses money.