Lorcana Whispers in the Well Illumineer's Trove€75today

Is a Whispers in the Well Illumineer's Trove worth opening?

Lorcana. 8 packs of 12 cards. Released 14 November 2025. Prices from 15 October 2026.

Cardmarket today

€74.77

Lowest listing
€33
Per pack
€9.35

Keep it sealed€53 of cards inside, after selling costs

Estimated contents: nobody has published measured pull rates for this box yet, so we use those of boxes with the same pack layout. Treat the numbers as a rough guide.

See the mathPrice history

Why we'd keep it sealed

The cards inside are worth €53 after selling costs. The box costs €75.

On average you lose €22 per box. Buying the singles you want is cheaper.

Pull rates are still uncertain. The real value could be anywhere from €40 to €178. That's enough to change the verdict.

If you opened 100 boxes

  • 14 make money
  • 86 lose money

A typical box is worth €25. 1 in 10 boxes is worth €93 or more, and 1 in 10 is worth €7 or less.

The math, per box

From the price of every card to what you'd actually keep.

Per box of 8 packs

Box price on Cardmarket
€75
Cards inside, at market prices
€64
Selling costs and bulk
−€11
Cards inside, after selling costs
€53
Compared with the box price
−€22

From 100,000 simulated boxes. Selling costs: 5% fee, €0.25 per card sold, cards under €1.00 go to bulk at €0.01.

Cards inside, at market prices
The average value of everything in a box, with each card at its price on Cardmarket today.
Selling costs and bulk
Cardmarket's fee and postage for every card worth selling. Cheap cards go to bulk for a few cents.
Cards inside, after selling costs
What an average box puts in your pocket once everything is sold.
Compared with the box price
Plus means the average box is worth more than it costs. Minus means it's worth less.

What the box costs

Today's price on Cardmarket, and how the box price and the cards inside have moved.

Cardmarket today
€74.77€9.35 per pack
Lowest listing
€33

The price history starts on the day live prices switch on, and grows by one point a day.

What 100,000 simulated boxes were worth

Every box is different. This is how the value of each simulated box came out, after selling costs.

Value of 100,000 simulated boxes86 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €75.Box price €75Lose moneyMake money020406080€100€200€300€400€455+Boxes out of 100Under €35: 62 of 100 boxes€35 to €55: 17 of 100 boxes€55 to €75: 7 of 100 boxes€75 to €95: 4 of 100 boxes€95 to €115: 3 of 100 boxes€115 to €135: 2 of 100 boxes€135 to €155: 1 in 116 boxes€155 to €175: 1 in 258 boxes€175 to €195: 1 in 184 boxes€195 to €215: 1 in 276 boxes€215 to €235: 1 in 581 boxes€235 to €255: 1 in 1,282 boxes€255 to €275: 1 in 2,703 boxes€275 to €295: 1 in 472 boxes€295 to €315: 1 in 292 boxes€315 to €335: 1 in 559 boxes€335 to €355: 1 in 1,724 boxes€355 to €375: 1 in 2,381 boxes€375 to €395: 1 in 4,000 boxes€395 to €415: 1 in 6,250 boxes€415 to €435: 1 in 14,286 boxes€435 to €455: 1 in 20,000 boxes€455 or more: 2 of 100 boxesValue of 100,000 simulated boxes86 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €75.Box price €75Make money020406080€200€400Boxes out of 100Under €35: 62 of 100 boxes€35 to €55: 17 of 100 boxes€55 to €75: 7 of 100 boxes€75 to €95: 4 of 100 boxes€95 to €115: 3 of 100 boxes€115 to €135: 2 of 100 boxes€135 to €155: 1 in 116 boxes€155 to €175: 1 in 258 boxes€175 to €195: 1 in 184 boxes€195 to €215: 1 in 276 boxes€215 to €235: 1 in 581 boxes€235 to €255: 1 in 1,282 boxes€255 to €275: 1 in 2,703 boxes€275 to €295: 1 in 472 boxes€295 to €315: 1 in 292 boxes€315 to €335: 1 in 559 boxes€335 to €355: 1 in 1,724 boxes€355 to €375: 1 in 2,381 boxes€375 to €395: 1 in 4,000 boxes€395 to €415: 1 in 6,250 boxes€415 to €435: 1 in 14,286 boxes€435 to €455: 1 in 20,000 boxes€455 or more: 2 of 100 boxes
Each bar covers €20 of box value. Bars right of the line are boxes worth at least what you paid.
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Box valueBoxes out of 100Result
Under €3562 of 100Lose money
€35 to €5517 of 100Lose money
€55 to €757 of 100Lose money
€75 to €954 of 100Make money
€95 to €1153 of 100Make money
€115 to €1352 of 100Make money
€135 to €1551 in 116Make money
€155 to €1751 in 258Make money
€175 to €1951 in 184Make money
€195 to €2151 in 276Make money
€215 to €2351 in 581Make money
€235 to €2551 in 1,282Make money
€255 to €2751 in 2,703Make money
€275 to €2951 in 472Make money
€295 to €3151 in 292Make money
€315 to €3351 in 559Make money
€335 to €3551 in 1,724Make money
€355 to €3751 in 2,381Make money
€375 to €3951 in 4,000Make money
€395 to €4151 in 6,250Make money
€415 to €4351 in 14,286Make money
€435 to €4551 in 20,000Make money
€455 or more2 of 100Make money

Where the value comes from

The average box, split by card type. Most of the value often sits in cards you'll rarely see.

Card typeHow many per boxAverage card after selling costsAdds to the box
Enchanted1 in 6.2 boxes1 in 6.2 boxes€103.76€17
Legendary1.6 per box1.6 per box€9.04€14
Iconic1 in 119 boxes1 in 119 boxes€1,297.10€11
Epic1 in 1.1 boxes1 in 1.1 boxes€5.15€4.79
Legendary (foil)1 in 5.2 boxes1 in 5.2 boxes€12.28€2.36
Super Rare3.9 per box3.9 per box€0.36€1.38
Super Rare (foil)1 in 1.7 boxes1 in 1.7 boxes€1.26€0.74
Rare11 per box11 per box€0.06€0.63
Rare (foil)1.1 per box1.1 per box€0.45€0.50
Common48 per box48 per box€0.01€0.48
Common or Uncommon (foil)5.0 per box5.0 per box€0.05€0.26
Uncommon24 per box24 per box€0.01€0.24
Total€53

Chance of a big pull

How often a box has at least one of the rarest cards.

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Card typeBoxes with at least oneOn averageBoxes for one specific card
EpicFrameless rainbow-foil cards, rarer than Legendary; 18 per set from Fabled on.63 of 1001 in 1.1 boxes19
EnchantedFull-art foil versions of cards, found only in the foil slot.15 of 1001 in 6.2 boxes111
IconicThe rarest cards in the game: only 2 per set, from Fabled on.1 in 1191 in 119 boxes238

If card prices fall

Prices often drop in the weeks after a set comes out. This is the same box with cheaper cards and the same box price.

Card pricesCards inside, after costsCompared with the boxBoxes that lose moneyVerdict
Today's prices€53−€2286 of 100Keep it sealed
25% lower€40−€3591 of 100Keep it sealed
50% lower€26−€4995 of 100Keep it sealed
75% lower€13−€6298 of 100Keep it sealed

Pull rates we used

Where each number comes from, and how sure we are. Sources checked on 14 October 2026. This box's own pull rates haven't been measured, so these come from boxes with the same pack layout, with extra uncertainty added.

Card typeHow oftenLikely rangeBased on
Common slots, 6 per pack
Common48 per boxPack layout
Uncommon slots, 3 per pack
Uncommon24 per boxPack layout
Rare-or-better slots, 2 per pack
Legendary1.6 per box1 in 1.0 boxes to 2.5 per boxEstimate, The Gamers Lodge, Lorcana pull rates guide (u/Narzghal community trackers for Reign of Jafar and Fabled)
Super Rare3.9 per box2.5 to 6.1 per boxEstimate, DigitalTQ, The First Chapter pull rates (384 packs)
Rare11 per boxThe rest of the slot
Foil slot, 1 per pack
Iconic1 in 119 boxes1 in 8.8 to 1,615 boxesEstimate, TCGTalk, Attack of the Vine! pull rates (216 packs from 9 boxes)
Epic1 in 1.1 boxes1 in 1.8 boxes to 1.5 per boxEstimate, TCGTalk, Attack of the Vine! pull rates (216 packs from 9 boxes)
Enchanted1 in 6.2 boxes1 in 3.7 to 10 boxesEstimate, The Gamers Lodge, Lorcana pull rates guide (u/Narzghal community trackers for Reign of Jafar and Fabled)
Legendary (foil)1 in 5.2 boxes1 in 3.1 to 8.7 boxesEstimate, The Gamers Lodge, Lorcana pull rates guide (u/Narzghal community trackers for Reign of Jafar and Fabled)
Super Rare (foil)1 in 1.7 boxes1 in 1.0 to 2.8 boxesEstimate, DigitalTQ, The First Chapter pull rates (384 packs)
Rare (foil)1.1 per box1 in 1.5 boxes to 1.8 per boxEstimate, DigitalTQ, The First Chapter pull rates (384 packs)
Common or Uncommon (foil)5.0 per boxThe rest of the slot

Most valuable cards

The 30 most valuable cards in the set, and what you'd keep after selling one.

CardCard typeCardmarket priceAfter selling costs
Hades - Looking for a DealIconic€1,437.13€1,365.02
Ariel - Ethereal VoiceIconic€1,294.14€1,229.18
Spooky SightEnchanted€479.14€454.93
Cinderella - Dream Come TrueEnchanted€300.48€285.21
Demona - Scourge of the Wyvern ClanEnchanted€186.35€176.78
Judy Hopps - Lead DetectiveEnchanted€118.83€112.64
The Headless Horseman - Terror of Sleepy HollowEnchanted€117.69€111.56
Nick Wilde - Persistent InvestigatorEnchanted€95.48€90.46
Goliath - Clan LeaderEnchanted€92.00€87.15
Goofy - Galumphing GumshoeEnchanted€88.28€83.62
Baloo - Carefree BearEnchanted€84.85€80.36
Malicious, Mean, and ScaryEnchanted€81.89€77.55
The Horned King - Wicked RulerEnchanted€69.20€65.49
Next Stop, OlympusEnchanted€67.21€63.60
Webby Vanderquack - Junior ProspectorEnchanted€62.13€58.77
The Black CauldronEnchanted€53.99€51.04
Demona - Scourge of the Wyvern Clan (foil)Legendary (foil)€42.04€39.69
Lady Tremaine - Sinister SocialiteEnchanted€39.06€36.86
Demona - Scourge of the Wyvern ClanLegendary€34.42€32.45
Hades - Looking for a Deal (foil)Legendary (foil)€31.92€30.07
The Sword of HerculesEnchanted€29.77€28.03
Hades - Looking for a DealLegendary€23.83€22.39
Cinderella - Dream Come True (foil)Legendary (foil)€23.49€22.07
Cinderella - Dream Come TrueLegendary€21.24€19.93
Goliath - Clan Leader (foil)Legendary (foil)€14.01€13.06
The Headless Horseman - Terror of Sleepy Hollow (foil)Legendary (foil)€13.05€12.15
Elsa - Exploring the UnknownEpic€12.06€11.21
He Hurled His ThunderboltEpic€11.67€10.84
Cheshire Cat - Inexplicable (foil)Super Rare (foil)€11.03€10.23
Sudden ScareEpic€10.15€9.39

How we work this out

We price every card at its Cardmarket market value, take off the selling costs above, and open 100,000 virtual boxes slot by slot using the pull rates in the table. The verdict compares the cards with the box price and checks how often a box loses money.

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