Pokémon Lost Origin Elite Trainer Box€198today

Is a Lost Origin Elite Trainer Box worth opening?

Pokémon. 8 packs of 11 cards. Released 9 September 2022. Prices from 15 October 2026.

Cardmarket today

€197.98

Lowest listing
€175
Per pack
€24.75

Keep it sealed€30 of cards inside, after selling costs

See the mathPrice history

Why we'd keep it sealed

The cards inside are worth €30 after selling costs. The box costs €198.

On average you lose €168 per box. Buying the singles you want is cheaper.

Some pull rates are estimates, so the real value is likely between €27 and €34.

No prices yet for: Basic Energy. We count them as €0.

If you opened 100 boxes

  • 1 make money
  • 99 lose money

A typical box is worth €7. 1 in 10 boxes is worth €41 or more, and 1 in 10 is worth €1 or less.

The math, per box

From the price of every card to what you'd actually keep.

Per box of 8 packs

Box price on Cardmarket
€198
Cards inside, at market prices
€38
Selling costs and bulk
−€8
Cards inside, after selling costs
€30
Compared with the box price
−€168

From 100,000 simulated boxes. Selling costs: 5% fee, €0.25 per card sold, cards under €1.00 go to bulk at €0.01.

Cards inside, at market prices
The average value of everything in a box, with each card at its price on Cardmarket today.
Selling costs and bulk
Cardmarket's fee and postage for every card worth selling. Cheap cards go to bulk for a few cents.
Cards inside, after selling costs
What an average box puts in your pocket once everything is sold.
Compared with the box price
Plus means the average box is worth more than it costs. Minus means it's worth less.

What the box costs

Today's price on Cardmarket, and how the box price and the cards inside have moved.

Cardmarket today
€197.98€24.75 per pack
Lowest listing
€175

The price history starts on the day live prices switch on, and grows by one point a day.

What 100,000 simulated boxes were worth

Every box is different. This is how the value of each simulated box came out, after selling costs.

Value of 100,000 simulated boxes99 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €198.Box price €198Lose money020406080€50€100€150€200Boxes out of 100Under €18: 71 of 100 boxes€18 to €28: 9 of 100 boxes€28 to €38: 9 of 100 boxes€38 to €48: 4 of 100 boxes€48 to €58: 1 in 71 boxes€58 to €68: 1 in 132 boxes€68 to €78: 1 in 151 boxes€78 to €88: 1 in 92 boxes€88 to €98: 1 in 107 boxes€98 to €108: 1 in 314 boxes€108 to €118: 1 in 433 boxes€118 to €128: 1 in 633 boxes€128 to €138: 1 in 1,923 boxes€138 to €148: 1 in 5,882 boxes€148 to €158: 1 in 12,500 boxes€158 to €168: 1 in 167 boxes€168 to €178: 1 in 592 boxes€178 to €188: 1 in 1,205 boxes€188 to €198: 1 in 1,064 boxes€198 to €208: 1 in 2,857 boxes€208 or more: 1 in 93 boxesValue of 100,000 simulated boxes99 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €198.Box price €198Lose money020406080€100€200Boxes out of 100Under €18: 71 of 100 boxes€18 to €28: 9 of 100 boxes€28 to €38: 9 of 100 boxes€38 to €48: 4 of 100 boxes€48 to €58: 1 in 71 boxes€58 to €68: 1 in 132 boxes€68 to €78: 1 in 151 boxes€78 to €88: 1 in 92 boxes€88 to €98: 1 in 107 boxes€98 to €108: 1 in 314 boxes€108 to €118: 1 in 433 boxes€118 to €128: 1 in 633 boxes€128 to €138: 1 in 1,923 boxes€138 to €148: 1 in 5,882 boxes€148 to €158: 1 in 12,500 boxes€158 to €168: 1 in 167 boxes€168 to €178: 1 in 592 boxes€178 to €188: 1 in 1,205 boxes€188 to €198: 1 in 1,064 boxes€198 to €208: 1 in 2,857 boxes€208 or more: 1 in 93 boxes
Each bar covers €10 of box value. Bars right of the line are boxes worth at least what you paid.
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Box valueBoxes out of 100Result
Under €1871 of 100Lose money
€18 to €289 of 100Lose money
€28 to €389 of 100Lose money
€38 to €484 of 100Lose money
€48 to €581 in 71Lose money
€58 to €681 in 132Lose money
€68 to €781 in 151Lose money
€78 to €881 in 92Lose money
€88 to €981 in 107Lose money
€98 to €1081 in 314Lose money
€108 to €1181 in 433Lose money
€118 to €1281 in 633Lose money
€128 to €1381 in 1,923Lose money
€138 to €1481 in 5,882Lose money
€148 to €1581 in 12,500Lose money
€158 to €1681 in 167Lose money
€168 to €1781 in 592Lose money
€178 to €1881 in 1,205Lose money
€188 to €1981 in 1,064Lose money
€198 to €2081 in 2,857Make money
€208 or more1 in 93Make money

Where the value comes from

The average box, split by card type. Most of the value often sits in cards you'll rarely see.

Card typeHow many per boxAverage card after selling costsAdds to the box
Alternate Art1 in 25 boxes1 in 25 boxes€385.43€15
Trainer Gallery1 in 1.5 boxes1 in 1.5 boxes€10.67€7.07
Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter1 in 3.9 boxes1 in 3.9 boxes€14.77€3.75
Trainer Gallery gold VMAX1 in 15 boxes1 in 15 boxes€16.74€1.15
Full Art1 in 3.7 boxes1 in 3.7 boxes€2.52€0.69
Reverse Holo7.0 per box7.0 per box€0.08€0.57
Rainbow Rare1 in 9.8 boxes1 in 9.8 boxes€4.66€0.48
Common40 per box40 per box€0.01€0.40
Gold Secret Rare1 in 16 boxes1 in 16 boxes€5.58€0.34
Uncommon24 per box24 per box€0.01€0.24
Pokémon VMAX / VSTAR1 in 2.8 boxes1 in 2.8 boxes€0.44€0.15
Pokémon V1 in 1.1 boxes1 in 1.1 boxes€0.14€0.13
Rare / Holo Rare6.2 per box6.2 per box€0.01€0.06
Radiant Rare1 in 2.5 boxes1 in 2.5 boxes€0.01€0.00
Basic Energy8.0 per box8.0 per boxNo price yet€0.00
Total€30

Chance of a big pull

How often a box has at least one of the rarest cards.

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Card typeBoxes with at least oneOn averageBoxes for one specific card
Full ArtFull-art Pokémon (EX, GX or V) and full-art Supporter cards.24 of 1001 in 3.7 boxes77
Rainbow RareRainbow-foil secret rare versions of GX, V, VMAX and Supporter cards.10 of 1001 in 9.8 boxes146
Trainer Gallery gold VMAXGold-and-black Trainer Gallery VMAX cards (two per set).7 of 1001 in 15 boxes29
Alternate ArtFull-card alternate artwork of a Pokémon V, the forerunner of today's Special Illustration Rares.4 of 1001 in 25 boxes100

If card prices fall

Prices often drop in the weeks after a set comes out. This is the same box with cheaper cards and the same box price.

Card pricesCards inside, after costsCompared with the boxBoxes that lose moneyVerdict
Today's prices€30−€16899 of 100Keep it sealed
25% lower€23−€17599 of 100Keep it sealed
50% lower€15−€18399 of 100Keep it sealed
75% lower€8−€19099 of 100Keep it sealed

Pull rates we used

Where each number comes from, and how sure we are. Sources checked on 14 October 2026.

Card typeHow oftenLikely rangeBased on
Common slots, 5 per pack
Radiant Rare1 in 2.5 boxes1 in 2.2 to 2.8 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Common40 per boxThe rest of the slot
Uncommon slots, 3 per pack
Uncommon24 per boxPack layout
Reverse holo slots, 1 per pack
Trainer Gallery1 in 1.5 boxes1 in 1.3 to 1.7 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter1 in 3.9 boxes1 in 3.5 to 4.5 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Trainer Gallery gold VMAX1 in 15 boxes1 in 12 to 17 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Reverse Holo7.0 per boxThe rest of the slot
Rare slot, 1 per pack
Pokémon V1 in 1.1 boxes1 in 1.2 boxes to 1.1 per boxPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Pokémon VMAX / VSTAR1 in 2.8 boxes1 in 2.5 to 3.2 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Full Art1 in 3.7 boxes1 in 3.2 to 4.2 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Alternate Art1 in 25 boxes1 in 20 to 31 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Rainbow Rare1 in 9.8 boxes1 in 8.6 to 11 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Gold Secret Rare1 in 16 boxes1 in 14 to 19 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Lost Origin Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2022)
Rare / Holo Rare6.2 per boxThe rest of the slot
Energy slot, 1 per pack
Basic Energy8.0 per boxPack layout

Most valuable cards

The 30 most valuable cards in the set, and what you'd keep after selling one.

CardCard typeCardmarket priceAfter selling costs
Giratina V (186)Alternate Art€1,415.22€1,344.21
Aerodactyl V (180)Alternate Art€166.47€157.90
Pikachu V (TG16)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€91.83€86.99
Pikachu VMAX (TG17)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€81.34€77.02
Gengar (TG06)Trainer Gallery€35.70€33.67
Pikachu (TG05)Trainer Gallery€34.15€32.19
Rotom V (177)Alternate Art€25.52€23.99
Charizard (TG03)Trainer Gallery€25.51€23.98
Pikachu VMAX (TG29)Trainer Gallery gold VMAX€17.95€16.80
Giratina VSTAR (212)Gold Secret Rare€17.93€16.78
Mew VMAX (TG30)Trainer Gallery gold VMAX€17.81€16.67
Galarian Perrserker V (184)Alternate Art€16.71€15.62
Giratina V (185)Full Art€12.10€11.25
Eternatus VMAX (TG22)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€11.42€10.60
Crobat V (TG20)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€11.32€10.50
Snorlax (TG10)Trainer Gallery€11.28€10.47
Gallade V (TG19)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€10.58€9.80
Aerodactyl VSTAR (199)Rainbow Rare€10.56€9.78
Orbeetle VMAX (TG13)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€8.67€7.99
Enamorus V (TG18)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€7.88€7.24
Hisuian Zoroark VSTAR (203)Gold Secret Rare€7.63€7.00
Kyurem VMAX (197)Rainbow Rare€7.44€6.82
Centiskorch VMAX (TG15)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€6.96€6.36
Nessa (TG27)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€6.71€6.12
Hisuian Goodra VSTAR (202)Rainbow Rare€6.60€6.02
Orbeetle V (TG12)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€6.43€5.86
Hisuian Zoroark VSTAR (213)Rainbow Rare€6.19€5.63
Eternatus V (TG21)Trainer Gallery V / VMAX / Supporter€5.73€5.19
Lady (208)Rainbow Rare€5.51€4.98
Magnezone VSTAR (198)Rainbow Rare€5.49€4.97

How we work this out

We price every card at its Cardmarket market value, take off the selling costs above, and open 100,000 virtual boxes slot by slot using the pull rates in the table. The verdict compares the cards with the box price and checks how often a box loses money.

Read the full method