Pokémon Obsidian Flames booster bundle€143today

Is an Obsidian Flames booster bundle worth opening?

Pokémon. 6 packs of 11 cards. Released 11 August 2023. Prices from 15 October 2026.

Cardmarket today

€142.72

Lowest listing
€150
Per pack
€23.79

Keep it sealed€10 of cards inside, after selling costs

See the mathPrice history

Why we'd keep it sealed

The cards inside are worth €10 after selling costs. The box costs €143.

On average you lose €132 per box. Buying the singles you want is cheaper.

Pull rates for this set are well documented.

No prices yet for: Basic Energy. We count them as €0.

If you opened 100 boxes

  • 0 make money
  • 100 lose money

A typical box is worth €4. 1 in 10 boxes is worth €26 or more, and 1 in 10 is worth €1 or less.

The math, per box

From the price of every card to what you'd actually keep.

Per box of 6 packs

Box price on Cardmarket
€143
Cards inside, at market prices
€16
Selling costs and bulk
−€5
Cards inside, after selling costs
€10
Compared with the box price
−€132

From 100,000 simulated boxes. Selling costs: 5% fee, €0.25 per card sold, cards under €1.00 go to bulk at €0.01.

Cards inside, at market prices
The average value of everything in a box, with each card at its price on Cardmarket today.
Selling costs and bulk
Cardmarket's fee and postage for every card worth selling. Cheap cards go to bulk for a few cents.
Cards inside, after selling costs
What an average box puts in your pocket once everything is sold.
Compared with the box price
Plus means the average box is worth more than it costs. Minus means it's worth less.

What the box costs

Today's price on Cardmarket, and how the box price and the cards inside have moved.

Cardmarket today
€142.72€23.79 per pack
Lowest listing
€150

The price history starts on the day live prices switch on, and grows by one point a day.

What 100,000 simulated boxes were worth

Every box is different. This is how the value of each simulated box came out, after selling costs.

Value of 100,000 simulated boxes100 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €143.Box price €143Lose money020406080€50€100€150Boxes out of 100Under €8: 66 of 100 boxes€8 to €13: 4 of 100 boxes€13 to €18: 10 of 100 boxes€18 to €23: 4 of 100 boxes€23 to €28: 7 of 100 boxes€28 to €33: 3 of 100 boxes€33 to €38: 1 in 109 boxes€38 to €43: 1 in 116 boxes€43 to €48: 1 in 317 boxes€48 to €53: 1 in 273 boxes€53 to €58: 1 in 885 boxes€58 to €63: 1 in 2,000 boxes€63 to €68: 1 in 5,556 boxes€68 to €73: 1 in 7,143 boxes€73 to €78: 2 of 100 boxes€78 to €83: 1 in 249 boxes€83 to €88: 1 in 439 boxes€88 to €93: 1 in 556 boxes€93 to €98: 1 in 990 boxes€98 to €103: 1 in 595 boxes€103 to €108: 1 in 3,333 boxes€108 to €113: 1 in 4,545 boxes€113 to €118: 1 in 8,333 boxes€118 to €123: 1 in 14,286 boxes€123 to €128: 1 in 9,091 boxes€128 to €133: 1 in 50,000 boxes€133 to €138: 1 in 100,000 boxes€138 to €143: 1 in 50,000 boxes€143 to €148: 1 in 9,091 boxes€148 to €153: 1 in 5,263 boxes€153 or more: 1 in 11,111 boxesValue of 100,000 simulated boxes100 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €143.Box price €143Lose money020406080€50€100€150Boxes out of 100Under €8: 66 of 100 boxes€8 to €13: 4 of 100 boxes€13 to €18: 10 of 100 boxes€18 to €23: 4 of 100 boxes€23 to €28: 7 of 100 boxes€28 to €33: 3 of 100 boxes€33 to €38: 1 in 109 boxes€38 to €43: 1 in 116 boxes€43 to €48: 1 in 317 boxes€48 to €53: 1 in 273 boxes€53 to €58: 1 in 885 boxes€58 to €63: 1 in 2,000 boxes€63 to €68: 1 in 5,556 boxes€68 to €73: 1 in 7,143 boxes€73 to €78: 2 of 100 boxes€78 to €83: 1 in 249 boxes€83 to €88: 1 in 439 boxes€88 to €93: 1 in 556 boxes€93 to €98: 1 in 990 boxes€98 to €103: 1 in 595 boxes€103 to €108: 1 in 3,333 boxes€108 to €113: 1 in 4,545 boxes€113 to €118: 1 in 8,333 boxes€118 to €123: 1 in 14,286 boxes€123 to €128: 1 in 9,091 boxes€128 to €133: 1 in 50,000 boxes€133 to €138: 1 in 100,000 boxes€138 to €143: 1 in 50,000 boxes€143 to €148: 1 in 9,091 boxes€148 to €153: 1 in 5,263 boxes€153 or more: 1 in 11,111 boxes
Each bar covers €5 of box value. Bars right of the line are boxes worth at least what you paid.
Show as a table
Box valueBoxes out of 100Result
Under €866 of 100Lose money
€8 to €134 of 100Lose money
€13 to €1810 of 100Lose money
€18 to €234 of 100Lose money
€23 to €287 of 100Lose money
€28 to €333 of 100Lose money
€33 to €381 in 109Lose money
€38 to €431 in 116Lose money
€43 to €481 in 317Lose money
€48 to €531 in 273Lose money
€53 to €581 in 885Lose money
€58 to €631 in 2,000Lose money
€63 to €681 in 5,556Lose money
€68 to €731 in 7,143Lose money
€73 to €782 of 100Lose money
€78 to €831 in 249Lose money
€83 to €881 in 439Lose money
€88 to €931 in 556Lose money
€93 to €981 in 990Lose money
€98 to €1031 in 595Lose money
€103 to €1081 in 3,333Lose money
€108 to €1131 in 4,545Lose money
€113 to €1181 in 8,333Lose money
€118 to €1231 in 14,286Lose money
€123 to €1281 in 9,091Lose money
€128 to €1331 in 50,000Lose money
€133 to €1381 in 100,000Lose money
€138 to €1431 in 50,000Lose money
€143 to €1481 in 9,091Make money
€148 to €1531 in 5,263Make money
€153 or more1 in 11,111Make money

Where the value comes from

The average box, split by card type. Most of the value often sits in cards you'll rarely see.

Card typeHow many per boxAverage card after selling costsAdds to the box
Illustration Rare1 in 2.2 boxes1 in 2.2 boxes€9.51€4.33
Special Illustration Rare1 in 5.3 boxes1 in 5.3 boxes€17.13€3.22
Hyper Rare1 in 8.7 boxes1 in 8.7 boxes€9.43€1.09
Ultra Rare1 in 2.5 boxes1 in 2.5 boxes€1.94€0.77
Double Rare1 in 1.2 boxes1 in 1.2 boxes€0.45€0.36
Common24 per box24 per box€0.01€0.24
Reverse Holo11 per box11 per box€0.02€0.20
Uncommon18 per box18 per box€0.01€0.18
Rare4.8 per box4.8 per box€0.01€0.05
Basic Energy6.0 per box6.0 per boxNo price yet€0.00
Total€10

Chance of a big pull

How often a box has at least one of the rarest cards.

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Card typeBoxes with at least oneOn averageBoxes for one specific card
Illustration RareFull-card alternate artwork of a regular Pokémon (one gold star).38 of 1001 in 2.2 boxes26
Special Illustration RareFull-card alternate artwork of a Pokémon ex or Supporter (two gold stars): the big chase cards of modern sets.17 of 1001 in 5.3 boxes32
Hyper RareGold-etched Pokémon ex, Trainer or Energy cards (three gold stars), the rarest cards of Scarlet & Violet sets.11 of 1001 in 8.7 boxes26

If card prices fall

Prices often drop in the weeks after a set comes out. This is the same box with cheaper cards and the same box price.

Card pricesCards inside, after costsCompared with the boxBoxes that lose moneyVerdict
Today's prices€10−€132more than 99 of 100 boxesKeep it sealed
25% lower€8−€135100 of 100Keep it sealed
50% lower€5−€138100 of 100Keep it sealed
75% lower€3−€140100 of 100Keep it sealed

Pull rates we used

Where each number comes from, and how sure we are. Sources checked on 14 October 2026.

Card typeHow oftenLikely rangeBased on
Common slots, 4 per pack
Common24 per boxPack layout
Uncommon slots, 3 per pack
Uncommon18 per boxPack layout
Reverse holo slots, 1 per pack
Reverse Holo6.0 per boxPack layout
Foil slot, 1 per pack
Illustration Rare1 in 2.2 boxes1 in 1.9 to 2.5 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Special Illustration Rare1 in 5.3 boxes1 in 4.7 to 6.1 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Hyper Rare1 in 8.7 boxes1 in 7.6 to 9.9 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Reverse Holo5.2 per boxThe rest of the slot
Rare slot, 1 per pack
Double Rare1 in 1.2 boxes1 in 1.1 to 1.4 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Ultra Rare1 in 2.5 boxes1 in 2.2 to 2.9 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Rare4.8 per boxThe rest of the slot
Energy slot, 1 per pack
Basic Energy6.0 per boxPack layout

Most valuable cards

The 30 most valuable cards in the set, and what you'd keep after selling one.

CardCard typeCardmarket priceAfter selling costs
Charizard ex (223)Special Illustration Rare€77.41€73.29
Charizard ex (228)Hyper Rare€26.70€25.12
Cleffa (202)Illustration Rare€24.81€23.32
Ninetales (199)Illustration Rare€24.72€23.23
Pidgeot ex (225)Special Illustration Rare€18.61€17.43
Scizor (205)Illustration Rare€14.37€13.40
Charizard ex (215)Ultra Rare€13.56€12.63
Gloom (198)Illustration Rare€13.36€12.44
Pidgeotto (208)Illustration Rare€12.75€11.86
Pidgey (207)Illustration Rare€12.31€11.44
Lechonk (209)Illustration Rare€5.08€4.58
Houndour (204)Illustration Rare€4.76€4.27
Revavroom ex (224)Special Illustration Rare€4.42€3.95
Eiscue ex (222)Special Illustration Rare€4.30€3.84
Charizard ex (125)Double Rare€3.66€3.23
Tyranitar ex (211)Ultra Rare€3.60€3.17
Larvitar (203)Illustration Rare€3.48€3.06
Bellibolt (201)Illustration Rare€2.99€2.59
Geeta (226)Special Illustration Rare€2.55€2.17
Basic Fire Energy (230)Hyper Rare€2.49€2.12
Poppy (227)Special Illustration Rare€2.47€2.10
Palafin (200)Illustration Rare€2.44€2.07
Dragonite ex (159)Double Rare€2.26€1.90
Varoom (206)Illustration Rare€2.16€1.80
Absol ex (214)Ultra Rare€1.99€1.64
Pidgeot ex (217)Ultra Rare€1.81€1.47
Umbreon (130), reverse holoReverse Holo€1.72€1.38
Artazon (229)Hyper Rare€1.37€1.05
Vespiquen ex (212)Ultra Rare€1.30€0.98
Eiscue ex (210)Ultra Rare€1.21€0.90

How we work this out

We price every card at its Cardmarket market value, take off the selling costs above, and open 100,000 virtual boxes slot by slot using the pull rates in the table. The verdict compares the cards with the box price and checks how often a box loses money.

Read the full method