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Is an Obsidian Flames booster display worth opening?

Pokémon. 36 packs of 11 cards. Released 11 August 2023. Prices from 15 October 2026.

Cardmarket today

€233.77

Lowest listing
€169
Per pack
€6.49

Keep it sealed€63 of cards inside, after selling costs

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Why we'd keep it sealed

The cards inside are worth €63 after selling costs. The box costs €234.

On average you lose €171 per box. Buying the singles you want is cheaper.

Pull rates for this set are well documented.

No prices yet for: Basic Energy. We count them as €0.

If you opened 100 boxes

  • 0 make money
  • 100 lose money

A typical box is worth €53. 1 in 10 boxes is worth €119 or more, and 1 in 10 is worth €21 or less.

The math, per box

From the price of every card to what you'd actually keep.

Per box of 36 packs

Box price on Cardmarket
€234
Cards inside, at market prices
€95
Selling costs and bulk
−€33
Cards inside, after selling costs
€63
Compared with the box price
−€171

From 100,000 simulated boxes. Selling costs: 5% fee, €0.25 per card sold, cards under €1.00 go to bulk at €0.01.

Cards inside, at market prices
The average value of everything in a box, with each card at its price on Cardmarket today.
Selling costs and bulk
Cardmarket's fee and postage for every card worth selling. Cheap cards go to bulk for a few cents.
Cards inside, after selling costs
What an average box puts in your pocket once everything is sold.
Compared with the box price
Plus means the average box is worth more than it costs. Minus means it's worth less.

What the box costs

Today's price on Cardmarket, and how the box price and the cards inside have moved.

Cardmarket today
€233.77€6.49 per pack
Lowest listing
€169
  • Box price on Cardmarket
  • Cards inside, after selling costs
Box price and the cards inside, day by dayFrom 14 Oct to 15 Oct, the box price went from €236 to €234, and the cards inside, after selling costs, from €63 to €63.€0€100€200€300Box€234Cards€6314 Oct15 Oct14 Oct: box €236, cards €6315 Oct: box €234, cards €63Box price and the cards inside, day by dayFrom 14 Oct to 15 Oct, the box price went from €236 to €234, and the cards inside, after selling costs, from €63 to €63.€0€100€200€300Box€234Cards€6314 Oct15 Oct14 Oct: box €236, cards €6315 Oct: box €234, cards €63
On days when the cards line sits above the box line, an average box was worth more than it cost. Selling costs use our defaults.
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DayBox priceCards inside, after costs
15 October 2026€233.77€62.66
14 October 2026€236.31€62.98

What 100,000 simulated boxes were worth

Every box is different. This is how the value of each simulated box came out, after selling costs.

Value of 100,000 simulated boxes100 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €234.Box price €234Lose money051015€50€100€150€200€250Boxes out of 100Under €14: 4 of 100 boxes€14 to €24: 9 of 100 boxes€24 to €34: 12 of 100 boxes€34 to €44: 14 of 100 boxes€44 to €54: 12 of 100 boxes€54 to €64: 11 of 100 boxes€64 to €74: 8 of 100 boxes€74 to €84: 6 of 100 boxes€84 to €94: 5 of 100 boxes€94 to €104: 4 of 100 boxes€104 to €114: 4 of 100 boxes€114 to €124: 3 of 100 boxes€124 to €134: 2 of 100 boxes€134 to €144: 2 of 100 boxes€144 to €154: 1 in 85 boxes€154 to €164: 1 in 114 boxes€164 to €174: 1 in 152 boxes€174 to €184: 1 in 195 boxes€184 to €194: 1 in 266 boxes€194 to €204: 1 in 392 boxes€204 to €214: 1 in 633 boxes€214 to €224: 1 in 781 boxes€224 to €234: 1 in 1,087 boxes€234 to €244: 1 in 1,818 boxes€244 or more: 1 in 877 boxesValue of 100,000 simulated boxes100 of every 100 simulated boxes were worth less than the box price of €234.Box price €234Lose money051015€100€200€244+Boxes out of 100Under €14: 4 of 100 boxes€14 to €24: 9 of 100 boxes€24 to €34: 12 of 100 boxes€34 to €44: 14 of 100 boxes€44 to €54: 12 of 100 boxes€54 to €64: 11 of 100 boxes€64 to €74: 8 of 100 boxes€74 to €84: 6 of 100 boxes€84 to €94: 5 of 100 boxes€94 to €104: 4 of 100 boxes€104 to €114: 4 of 100 boxes€114 to €124: 3 of 100 boxes€124 to €134: 2 of 100 boxes€134 to €144: 2 of 100 boxes€144 to €154: 1 in 85 boxes€154 to €164: 1 in 114 boxes€164 to €174: 1 in 152 boxes€174 to €184: 1 in 195 boxes€184 to €194: 1 in 266 boxes€194 to €204: 1 in 392 boxes€204 to €214: 1 in 633 boxes€214 to €224: 1 in 781 boxes€224 to €234: 1 in 1,087 boxes€234 to €244: 1 in 1,818 boxes€244 or more: 1 in 877 boxes
Each bar covers €10 of box value. Bars right of the line are boxes worth at least what you paid.
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Box valueBoxes out of 100Result
Under €144 of 100Lose money
€14 to €249 of 100Lose money
€24 to €3412 of 100Lose money
€34 to €4414 of 100Lose money
€44 to €5412 of 100Lose money
€54 to €6411 of 100Lose money
€64 to €748 of 100Lose money
€74 to €846 of 100Lose money
€84 to €945 of 100Lose money
€94 to €1044 of 100Lose money
€104 to €1144 of 100Lose money
€114 to €1243 of 100Lose money
€124 to €1342 of 100Lose money
€134 to €1442 of 100Lose money
€144 to €1541 in 85Lose money
€154 to €1641 in 114Lose money
€164 to €1741 in 152Lose money
€174 to €1841 in 195Lose money
€184 to €1941 in 266Lose money
€194 to €2041 in 392Lose money
€204 to €2141 in 633Lose money
€214 to €2241 in 781Lose money
€224 to €2341 in 1,087Lose money
€234 to €2441 in 1,818Make money
€244 or more1 in 877Make money

Where the value comes from

The average box, split by card type. Most of the value often sits in cards you'll rarely see.

Card typeHow many per boxAverage card after selling costsAdds to the box
Illustration Rare2.7 per box2.7 per box€9.51€26
Special Illustration Rare1.1 per box1.1 per box€17.13€19
Hyper Rare1 in 1.4 boxes1 in 1.4 boxes€9.43€6.52
Ultra Rare2.4 per box2.4 per box€1.94€4.63
Double Rare4.9 per box4.9 per box€0.45€2.18
Common144 per box144 per box€0.01€1.44
Reverse Holo67 per box67 per box€0.02€1.21
Uncommon108 per box108 per box€0.01€1.08
Rare29 per box29 per box€0.01€0.29
Basic Energy36 per box36 per boxNo price yet€0.00
Total€63

Chance of a big pull

How often a box has at least one of the rarest cards.

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Card typeBoxes with at least oneOn averageBoxes for one specific card
Illustration RareFull-card alternate artwork of a regular Pokémon (one gold star).94 of 1002.7 per box4.4
Special Illustration RareFull-card alternate artwork of a Pokémon ex or Supporter (two gold stars): the big chase cards of modern sets.68 of 1001.1 per box5.3
Hyper RareGold-etched Pokémon ex, Trainer or Energy cards (three gold stars), the rarest cards of Scarlet & Violet sets.50 of 1001 in 1.4 boxes4.3

If card prices fall

Prices often drop in the weeks after a set comes out. This is the same box with cheaper cards and the same box price.

Card pricesCards inside, after costsCompared with the boxBoxes that lose moneyVerdict
Today's prices€63−€171more than 99 of 100 boxesKeep it sealed
25% lower€46−€188100 of 100Keep it sealed
50% lower€31−€203100 of 100Keep it sealed
75% lower€16−€218100 of 100Keep it sealed

Pull rates we used

Where each number comes from, and how sure we are. Sources checked on 14 October 2026.

Card typeHow oftenLikely rangeBased on
Common slots, 4 per pack
Common144 per boxPack layout
Uncommon slots, 3 per pack
Uncommon108 per boxPack layout
Reverse holo slots, 1 per pack
Reverse Holo36 per boxPack layout
Foil slot, 1 per pack
Illustration Rare2.7 per box2.4 to 3.1 per boxPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Special Illustration Rare1.1 per box1 in 1.0 boxes to 1.3 per boxPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Hyper Rare1 in 1.4 boxes1 in 1.3 to 1.6 boxesPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Reverse Holo31 per boxThe rest of the slot
Rare slot, 1 per pack
Double Rare4.9 per box4.3 to 5.6 per boxPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Ultra Rare2.4 per box2.1 to 2.7 per boxPublished estimate, TCGplayer (Peter Day): Pokémon TCG: Obsidian Flames Pull Rates, 8,000+ packs (2023)
Rare29 per boxThe rest of the slot
Energy slot, 1 per pack
Basic Energy36 per boxPack layout

Most valuable cards

The 30 most valuable cards in the set, and what you'd keep after selling one.

CardCard typeCardmarket priceAfter selling costs
Charizard ex (223)Special Illustration Rare€77.41€73.29
Charizard ex (228)Hyper Rare€26.70€25.12
Cleffa (202)Illustration Rare€24.81€23.32
Ninetales (199)Illustration Rare€24.72€23.23
Pidgeot ex (225)Special Illustration Rare€18.61€17.43
Scizor (205)Illustration Rare€14.37€13.40
Charizard ex (215)Ultra Rare€13.56€12.63
Gloom (198)Illustration Rare€13.36€12.44
Pidgeotto (208)Illustration Rare€12.75€11.86
Pidgey (207)Illustration Rare€12.31€11.44
Lechonk (209)Illustration Rare€5.08€4.58
Houndour (204)Illustration Rare€4.76€4.27
Revavroom ex (224)Special Illustration Rare€4.42€3.95
Eiscue ex (222)Special Illustration Rare€4.30€3.84
Charizard ex (125)Double Rare€3.66€3.23
Tyranitar ex (211)Ultra Rare€3.60€3.17
Larvitar (203)Illustration Rare€3.48€3.06
Bellibolt (201)Illustration Rare€2.99€2.59
Geeta (226)Special Illustration Rare€2.55€2.17
Basic Fire Energy (230)Hyper Rare€2.49€2.12
Poppy (227)Special Illustration Rare€2.47€2.10
Palafin (200)Illustration Rare€2.44€2.07
Dragonite ex (159)Double Rare€2.26€1.90
Varoom (206)Illustration Rare€2.16€1.80
Absol ex (214)Ultra Rare€1.99€1.64
Pidgeot ex (217)Ultra Rare€1.81€1.47
Umbreon (130), reverse holoReverse Holo€1.72€1.38
Artazon (229)Hyper Rare€1.37€1.05
Vespiquen ex (212)Ultra Rare€1.30€0.98
Eiscue ex (210)Ultra Rare€1.21€0.90

How we work this out

We price every card at its Cardmarket market value, take off the selling costs above, and open 100,000 virtual boxes slot by slot using the pull rates in the table. The verdict compares the cards with the box price and checks how often a box loses money.

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